Sunday, February 13, 2011

Hamlet Blog Discussion - Quiz Grade

Throughout the play, Hamlet claims to be feigning madness, but his portrayal of a madman is so intense and so convincing that many readers believe that Hamlet actually slips into insanity at certain moments in the play. Do you think this is true, or is Hamlet merely play-acting insanity? What evidence can you cite for either claim.

You must answer the question completely and provide evidence from the text (doesn't have to be a quote).  This is a quiz grade, so do not copy anyone else's answer.

Extra Credit Pts: Replying to someone else's response and creating a discussion between several classmates. (5-15pts.)

*Due by Tuesday, February 15, 2011 @ midnight.  Anyone posting after midnight will have points deducted and fyi I receive an email to my phone when you all post, so I know exactly what time you post :)

39 comments:

  1. Liliana Chavez 1/2 ab
    I say that Hamlet was not crazy, instead he was a little hystericall because of the murder of his father. The truth hit him so hard that I can just imagine his zealous glare. He is clearly thinking of what he is saying and he even contemplates on suicide on his famous soliloquy. Each and every one of his words are strong and avegefull sounding. He is clearly not gone mad but passionate towards avenging his father's murder.

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  2. Jenny Garcia 1st/2nd ab

    Yes, i think it is true. I believe Hamlet played his "madness" role so well that slowly he, without him realizing it, began to slip into insanity. His yearning for days in trying to get revenge for his father's death was pure determination, which makes the guy a little crazy. And his mad-like plots makes the readers see that Hamlet was slowely transforming into another character that is gradually losing his sanity.

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  3. Yes, I think Hamlet at the beginning was play acting insanity, however I think he took his acting to seriously for he slipped into madness! His obsession with revenging his fathers death transformed his character that I think he realized it himself.
    I think he began to transform from play acting to actual insanity, is when he kills Polonius.

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  4. Mayra Rodriguez
    7/8 period

    I believe that at first, when Hamlet decides to pretend being crazy to avenge his father's death, he starts off by merely play-acting insanity. In the beginning, Hamlet's plans are clear. He wants to kill his uncle, King Claudius, the same way his uncle killed his father, King Hamlet. However, as the play proceeds, it seems to me that Hamlet actually slips into insanity. Once Hamlet kills Polonius in front of his own mother, Gertrude, things start getting serious. Perhaps, Hamlet was caught up on his desire for revenge against King Claudius that he did not stop to think about the consequences of his actions, so he ended up losing control.

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  5. I do believe Hamlet did get a little carried away with his scheme of revenge. For example, when Hamlet kills Polonius, thinking it was King Claudius, he doesn't stop to realize what he had just done. Instead, he continues on as if his death meant nothing and hid him under the stairway. His strategy at first was to ONLY scare the king into confessing the murder by his play. But as time progressed into the story, he only seemed to be getting more "mad" than what he planned to be. All in all, I do believe Hamlet had gotten caught up in the face a revenge. He even asked himself if it was really worth it, worth hurting loved ones just to avenge his father's murder. It just goes to show how revenge really makes someone lose sight of what really matters.

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  6. I don't think he was insane. It was part of the plan to get revenge for his father's death and I think the rage from being betrayed led his actions. I know if I had been in his shoes I would probably be angry too so I think it's normal for him to be acting like that.

    Billie Flores
    1/2

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  7. I believe that Hamlet has a controlled crazed role until his orginal plan ends. His plan only went so far as up to see King claudius's reaction to the play. After the play, Hamlet seems to be improvising rather than creating a new plan; and I believe that Hamlet was so obsessed and passionate towards making his first plan fall through, that he hadn't thought about a further step beyond the King's reaction. As he begins to improvise, he falls deeper into his role that he develops a sense of insanity formed from a combination of mixed emotions and his previous acting. Hamlet's first encounter with Ophelia gains him a "mad" reputation because it's part of his plan, however, his actions begin to become untaned when he reveals his true emotions to his mother rather than keeping it secret as he was. As his emotions bottled up, they combined with his free-minded behavior which caused him to be unstable and unsure of how he would obtain his true revenge. His consistent verbal badgering to his mother along with furious assault on an unknown spy are examples of him losing control.

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  8. I think that Hamlet was not insane his insanity was mislead due to the outcome of his plans and actions if I went through what Hamlet went through I would've been seen as insane as Hamlet.

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  9. Meagan Cortez 7th/8th
    It becomes a problem to figure out if Hamlet was really insane or not because he decides to act "crazy" on purpose. He displays wild speech and erratic behavior. He even considers taking his own life - suicide. He sends his own friends to die, and is partially responsible for Ophelia's death. He murders Polonius by accident and kills his stepfather/uncle. Even though he murders Polonius accidentally, the other actions do show a sign of insanity. When a person thinks about suicide, it is said they are insane and he appears to have severe depression and guilt. He was so angry at his mother and wanted to get back that he started losing sight of reality. Though when Hamlet is not around specific people he does show signs of intelligence and clear thinking. I think he would at times get "lost" in the moment but was not really completely insane.

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  10. Sam Ruiz 5/6 period
    I don't think Hamlet actually transformed into the madman he tried to portray. He pretended to be mad and brilliantly played the role, that's it. It is true, however, that his strong desire for revenge seemed like madness, but I believe he was merely enraged rather than crazy. The intense fury that bottled up inside Hamlet is what motivated his actions, not madness. If he had been truly mad, he would not have hesitated to kill his mother or Claudius (when he was praying).

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  11. I dont think he was insane. I think his emotions just got the best of him sometimes; like when he killed opgelia's father. But other than that he seemed like a man who was affected by an unforgivable betrayal.

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  12. 5/6

    I believe Hamlet's madness was at first merely an act because he decided to act crazy on purpose as part of his plan of revenge for his uncle poisoning his father. However, I feel as if he got a little too into his character and became somewhat mad. First Hamlet sees the ghost of his dead father which could have been a hallucination, he then murders Polonious for eavesdropping, he is partly responsible for Ophelia's death, and he even considered suicide. All these actions could be signs of insanity, but he does have a reason to be acting this way because of the loss of his father and his mother's remarriage. So I do believe Hamlet does slip into madness in certain points of the play, but he isn't necessarily insane.

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  13. Selina Soto Pd. 5-6

    Hamlet is playing the insanity card in most of the play but is he really "mad"? I believe that there are instances where Hamlet plays this card too well. To a point where even through all the planning he does to murder his uncle he has times that question his sanity. Ex: He murders Polonius, contemplates over suiside, and begins this revenge scheme because a ghost who apparently is King Hamlet tells him that Claudius killed him. So even though Hamlet puts up this facade of insanity there are events that could have happened differently if his own madness didn't sprout every-now-and-again.

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  14. I think Hamlet play acts the insanity due to the revenge of his father. He knows what hes doing he just plays it to mislead his enemies. His madness play with his emotions, just like when he killed Polonius. If anybody was to be insane it would be Ophelia because she committed suicide.

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  15. In my opinion, Hamlet is play acts insanity to a certain point. He begins "acting" insane to fufill his dead's fathers wishes in killing his Uncle Claudius. As he begans acting Hamlet get's so caught up in the revenge that he actually very well becomes insane. He murders Polonius, which was not part of his revenge. His revenge was to simply kill Claudius for murdering his father and marrying his mother.
    Brenda B. 5/6

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  16. As opposed to what everyone else has said, I believe that Hamlet was not acting out his deranged behavior because he allowed his rage to get the best out of him. In addition to that, his quest to murder the man who killed his father in order to claim the throne and wife caused Hamlet to take his vengance one step ahead and become overzealous.

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  17. Throughout his quest for revenge, Hamlet can be described as sane or insane depending on the event taking place. For example when Hamlet is plotting his plan for his uncle's murder, many would say that it would take a sane intelligent person to do so. On the other hand, when Hamlet is talking with his mother and his love Ophelia on separate occasions he comes on as a little crazy in his actions. All in all though I truly think that he knew exactly what he was doing from the get-go.

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  18. Although some of my peers believe that Hamlet is mad or insane, I think that there were only tragedies in his life that provoked him to seek revenge on his uncle-King Claudius. His anger towards his uncle for killing his father, his distrust and even disgust for his father lack of mourning for his father and that a ghost said to be his father influences him to committ a murder. If all these things did not occur then Hamlet would be influence to seek revenge and avenge his father's death.

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  19. Due to the fact, that I'm an actress I know how it feels to "play a role." Sometimes an actor can get so enthralled with their act,that some people start to believe that the actors themselves have forgotten the difference between what is "real" and "fake." In Hamlets case, he was playing the role as a mad man, which in my eyes he successfully mastered. To be "mad" means to say and do irrational things. Throughout the play he keeps in constant character and behind everything he said, there was meaning therefore, it wasn't complete non sense, and he knew exactly what he was saying. When he would speak to Horatio, he was "sane." Hamlet, just played the script hella well!

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  20. in my opinion i believe that hamlet was not crazy in the beginning of the play. although as the play progressed he began to get a little histerical and mad. one example i can give is when the gravediggers are getting ready to bury ophelia, hamlet becomes so "mad" that he wanted to get buried alive with ophelia.

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  21. in my opinion i believe that hamlet was not crazy in the beginning of the play. although as the play progressed he began to get a little histerical and mad. one example i can give is when the gravediggers are getting ready to bury ophelia, hamlet becomes so "mad" that he wanted to get buried alive with ophelia.
    -carlos cuadros

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  22. i think that at first Hamlet madness was just an act but troughtout the play his passion for getting revenge for his fathers death eventually leads him into insanity.

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  23. I think Hamlet really was insane. He became obsessed with revenge and was plotting to kill people. Normal people don't plan murders.He also contemplated suicide,that isn't something normal people think about either. He might of started off pretending, but by the end I don't think he had to fake it anymore.

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  24. I believe that Hamlet was merely acting crazy in order to avenge his father's death and kill King Claudius. I strongly believe that he took his plan a little too far when he accidently killed Polonius when he mistook him for Claudius. I also believe that he got too into his character and forgot it was an act, therefore slowly slipped into insanity. Either that, or he is an exceptional actor.

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  25. I definitely believe that hamlet was indeed mad in some parts of the book. I believe that any person who thinks about killing, actually goes through with it, and jumps into a grave to be given recognition has to have something wrong with them at a certain point. I think that he may have wanted to just play the role as a lunatic but only his father’s words were keeping him from ultimately getting revenge on his uncle. I do not agree with Alexandra’s comment that “there was meaning therefore, it wasn't complete non sense, and he knew exactly what he was saying. “ I do not think Hamlet knew what he was doing every second of the play. For example, when he killed Polonius, it was not planned and he did not know what he was doing. Sure, he did not mean to kill Polonius but still he did. Hamlet goes back and forth with his mood swings. I agree with Tony Reyna when he states, “When Hamlet is talking with his mother and his love Ophelia on separate occasions he comes on as a little crazy in his actions.” Therefore, Hamlet was sane at some points in the novel and although he tried to play a role of a lunatic in my opinion, he went beyond mad and instead of acting the role, it became his life style.

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  26. I believe Hamlet took his revengeful plan too much to heart because he did get a little carried away, a little too over dramatic. However, it is understood because it was his father's ghost who revealed to him the hidden truth about his death, and frankly, I think I would have been just as affected. I do not agree that Hamlet went crazy, he was only enraged and furious but he was always fully-minded in control of his actions, for the most part.

    Velma 7/8

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  27. I believe that Hamlet was in full control of his actions the whole time. He was merely pretending to be insane in order for the plan that he had so intricately designed to work properly in his favor. I doubt that an insane person would possess the proper mentality to be able to plot the King's murder such as Hamlet did. Hamlet may have been taken over by his rage at one point, but still, he was clearly not crazy.

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  28. I do not think Hamlet slipped into madness. Many factors contributed to his late 'eccentric' behavior such as the discovery of his father's murder and eternal unrest and his mother's hasty remarriage to his uncle (who by the way killed his father). I think Prince Hamlet was in his right mind to be a little upset and act out against everyone and it wouldn’t be that hard for him to pull off the madman act with all this ‘inspiration’ around him. He was faking the whole time like he claimed to be throughout the play.

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  29. The main goal for Hamlet is to play-act insanity in order for vengeance to be accomplished. I think that at times, this "insanity" got the best of him. There are two examples where this takes place in the play. The first example is the innocent death of Polonius. As Hamlet and the Queen were engaging in conversation, his madness overtakes him and kills the innocent man, being mistaken for the King. The second example involves the the ghost's appearance. When Hamlet explains to the Queen of her betrayel towards King Hamlet, Hamlet see's his father, while the Queen can not. Hamlet clearly portrays actual madness by letting him mind get the best of him and cause, as a result, an innocent death and the creation of his father's image out of his imagination.

    -Jesus Sanchez 1/2 A

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  30. I dont think Hamlet was crazy. He doesnt clearly say it but in one of his soliliquys he kind of mentions his master plan to act as if he were insane. I think it a beautiful idea because it helps him get revenge. I honestly would do that because your making people think one thing but its not even like that. I dont know but i dont think he was actually crazy, he just played the part, i mean it is a PLAY haha :)
    -Jodie Gomez 1/2 A-B

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  31. Edgar Ortiz
    Though I think that Hamlet was struggling with his sanity at one point, I never really think that he is insane. He only acted that way to find out the truth about his fathers death. To bad though I think the story couldve been better had he actually been insane.

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  32. I believe Hamlet is simply feigning madness in the play. I do not think he ever truly loses his sanity. Although he may seem crazy for believing the words of a ghost, thus setting out to avenge his father, Hamlet always seems to be in control. He is deliberate in his actions and rarely acts rashly. An example of this is his plan to feign madness so he can eventually kill Claudius and avenge his father. Hamlet is careful in constructing his madness and dotes on small details, like Claudius confessing thus leading him to decide to kill him later. If Hamlet had truly become insane, I believe he would have taken his chance to kill Claudius in Act 3, Scene 3, when Claudius is confessing his sins. However, Hamlet rationalizes that because he is confessing his sins Claudius might not go to hell if he dies in that moment. Hamlet carefully thinks of the consequences of killing Claudius during his confession and realizes that killing him, and perhaps sending him to heaven, is not the wisest decision or actual revenge at all. Thus, he concludes that he must wait for a better time. This rationalization does not seem like the thought process of a mad man, therefore leading me to believe that though Hamlet can be overly dramatic he was simply feigning madness throughout the play.

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  34. 7th/8rh
    i believe that it was only to convince the other characters that he was insane in his pursuit of revenge, but he played the role so good that others might actually think he was insane when he was just acting to accomplish his goal.

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  35. hamlet in my my opinion hamlet is play acting because if at any instance he showed that he had any intentions of killing the king or even disrespecting the king they would jail him. but he lost his father so he probably did become a bit histerical like liliana said so yes at instances he was playacting but then in some im not so sure.

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  36. Hamlet had a plan from the very beginning. The moment right after his dead father's ghost revealed his murder, Hamlet started plotting revenge. He decided insanity was something that he would need hang on to if he wanted to plan his vengeance in the most intelligent manner. He hid his true intentions underneath a blanket of insanity. I believe that Hamlet does, in fact, slip into insanity at certain points throughout the play. However, I also believe that he slips out of it just as fast. What motivates Hamlet to remain sane in the midst of his brilliant act of insanity is the goal at hand: to avenge his father's murder. There are several hints throughout the play that remind the reader of Hamlet's sanity. For example, as Hamlet prepares the actors to perform "The Mousetrap," he says several statements that only a genius driven by a deathly purpose would be able to generate.

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  37. Mariella C. Zavala
    5/6

    In response to Alexandra Nichole's comment...

    Although Hamlet, without a fact play his own script magnificently, wouldn't you think that just merely nurturing a thought of murder in your head in response of your father's death is mad in itself?

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  38. monica palacios 7th 8th pd.
    well, i know im kinda late on this but anyways i do think that hamlet was kinda crazy, but crazy for leading ophelia on and just dissing her! instead he was getting super involved in getting revenge over his fathers death and honestly that just shows that he was interested more in what some paranormal apparition than what was going on in his personal life.

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  39. Although it was Hamlet's first plan to act "delusional" and "mad", I believe he did slip from sanity someimes. In order for one to be truly mad or even feign it, we have to give into that slight unknown-ness within ourselves.
    For example, Hamlet's sanity slipped when he killed Polonius and having no drastic reaction. This was one of the first times that I saw Hamlet act on impulse. Hamlet doesn't act rashly, rather he was a strategist. Although his intention was not to kill Polonius, why decide to kill him on the spot? In front of his mother.
    Anyways, Halmet does maintain his composure, his "sanity" bt he does things that mark him as truly mad. I mean, if you seek revenge to the point of your own death the doesn't that make you mad?

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